logiclife
12-04 11:59 AM
I'm with you, why is everyone so afraid?
God knows there would be enough people for a class action lawsuit against DOL.
My congressman called DOL and they said my case had been withdrawn: but it had been withdrawn b/c of THEIR errors, TWICE!
Both times it was reinstated and proved to be their error, and they are still using it as an excuse for not processing it yet.
And I thought "developed" countries worked differently than "developing" countries.
If IV has enough people interested I would certainly be interested to participate in a CA suit against DOL. I am losing hope that diplomacy will bring any results for us to be helpful.
USCIS only works faster when there have been mandamus suits filed against them, unfortunately no one seems to have done anything with DOL. Maybe it's time
For the lawsuit.
This isnt the first time people have thought that lawsuit against DOL is a good idea.
That is not true. Nothing will be gained from the lawsuit. There have been lawsuits against DOL before for exactly the ineffciency and slowness. Those lawsuits have failed. They will fail again. Being inefficient is not against the law. See the IV document on DOL- backlogs here :
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=50
Also, read about the lawsuit Liberty Fund v. Chao and judge's opinion on that lawsuit.
And BTW, earlier this year, there were few people on immigration portal collecting money for lawsuit against DOL. I dont know how far it went.
God knows there would be enough people for a class action lawsuit against DOL.
My congressman called DOL and they said my case had been withdrawn: but it had been withdrawn b/c of THEIR errors, TWICE!
Both times it was reinstated and proved to be their error, and they are still using it as an excuse for not processing it yet.
And I thought "developed" countries worked differently than "developing" countries.
If IV has enough people interested I would certainly be interested to participate in a CA suit against DOL. I am losing hope that diplomacy will bring any results for us to be helpful.
USCIS only works faster when there have been mandamus suits filed against them, unfortunately no one seems to have done anything with DOL. Maybe it's time
For the lawsuit.
This isnt the first time people have thought that lawsuit against DOL is a good idea.
That is not true. Nothing will be gained from the lawsuit. There have been lawsuits against DOL before for exactly the ineffciency and slowness. Those lawsuits have failed. They will fail again. Being inefficient is not against the law. See the IV document on DOL- backlogs here :
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=50
Also, read about the lawsuit Liberty Fund v. Chao and judge's opinion on that lawsuit.
And BTW, earlier this year, there were few people on immigration portal collecting money for lawsuit against DOL. I dont know how far it went.
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noone2day78
02-19 08:11 AM
ohh is this really true? can u specify a source for this ?
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eb3retro
05-14 10:46 PM
I already contributed after hearing the news that my pd is current.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=63110#post63110
Will continue to contribute in future.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=63110#post63110
Will continue to contribute in future.
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01-19 05:15 PM
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jayleno
03-11 11:26 AM
Its 100% fraud and abuse. I'm suprised you even thought of asking about this. The answer is in your question.
I worked for an employer in WY 2004 as a physician and since then i resigned and moved onto another job with a new labor and I-140. However last year at the time of July isa bulletin fiasco, I asked my employer from WY in 2004 to file for an I-140 based on the previous approved labor condition in 2004 to retain that priority date under EB -2.
Employer knows I have no intent of joining them after the green card and I have my own practice , so i donot intend to join the practice.
In this scenario, if this considered a misuse of retaining priority date and how do i prove the intent and will the USCIS allow a situation like this?
I worked for an employer in WY 2004 as a physician and since then i resigned and moved onto another job with a new labor and I-140. However last year at the time of July isa bulletin fiasco, I asked my employer from WY in 2004 to file for an I-140 based on the previous approved labor condition in 2004 to retain that priority date under EB -2.
Employer knows I have no intent of joining them after the green card and I have my own practice , so i donot intend to join the practice.
In this scenario, if this considered a misuse of retaining priority date and how do i prove the intent and will the USCIS allow a situation like this?
smuggymba
10-06 03:52 PM
simple1 - whenever I see ur reply, it's regarding a toll alert. Same with ronhira guy. All you 2 two do is issue toll alert whenever someone asks a question.
H1-B audits are a reality and he is asking about a visit that he got because clearly no one expects it. What's the problem? What fact gaps did ur james bond brain find?
H1-B audits are a reality and he is asking about a visit that he got because clearly no one expects it. What's the problem? What fact gaps did ur james bond brain find?
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kumargn
11-24 05:23 PM
you can use any of the consulates in india.
but usually dates opens up if any cancellation. check vfs site often. nowadays it is easier to get appt than it used to be.
disclaimer: I'm not an immigration attroney, so consult one for your situations as laws/procedures are changing often.
Thanks arnet ,
As you mentioned i kept checking the chennai consulate, and it opened up like a blessing in disguise, with slots again and i was able to get my dates .Only problem was it forced me to cancel my earlier appointment and redo all the application again .That was because i had booked an appointment with Mumbai consulate in distress of not finding any with chennai .
but usually dates opens up if any cancellation. check vfs site often. nowadays it is easier to get appt than it used to be.
disclaimer: I'm not an immigration attroney, so consult one for your situations as laws/procedures are changing often.
Thanks arnet ,
As you mentioned i kept checking the chennai consulate, and it opened up like a blessing in disguise, with slots again and i was able to get my dates .Only problem was it forced me to cancel my earlier appointment and redo all the application again .That was because i had booked an appointment with Mumbai consulate in distress of not finding any with chennai .
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Green.Tech
09-24 03:47 PM
GreenTech, that's a good question. I am considering to transfer to offices in Asia or Europe next year and then attend B-school in the US after 2 years. That way, once I graduate, I will also at least have the option to get another 6-year H1 in the US.
thepaew, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about this for a while, and my options are:
1) Start the GC process now and wait until I get the GC. Then think about B-school after I get the GC (I am not interested in part-time programs).
2) Forget the GC process and transfer to Europe or Asia next year and then attend B-school in the US after a few years.
Personally for me, having an MBA in 5 years is more valuable than having a GC in 5 years, so I am leaning towards option 2 above. However, if I don't get into B-school, then that's another story... I would probably transfer back to the US on L1 and start the GC process. At that point, I would apply under EB2 anyway with my Bachelor's and 5+ years experience.
Thanks again everyone for the replies and advice. And yes, of course you are not lawyers, but your help is still very useful. During my H1 renewal process, I got more useful info from here than from my company's lawyer!
Seba - It seems like you have done your research and thought this through. I wish you good luck in whatever you pursue. Please don't forget to support IV in its overall goal to make this GC process a 'sane' one!
thepaew, thanks for the advice. I have been thinking about this for a while, and my options are:
1) Start the GC process now and wait until I get the GC. Then think about B-school after I get the GC (I am not interested in part-time programs).
2) Forget the GC process and transfer to Europe or Asia next year and then attend B-school in the US after a few years.
Personally for me, having an MBA in 5 years is more valuable than having a GC in 5 years, so I am leaning towards option 2 above. However, if I don't get into B-school, then that's another story... I would probably transfer back to the US on L1 and start the GC process. At that point, I would apply under EB2 anyway with my Bachelor's and 5+ years experience.
Thanks again everyone for the replies and advice. And yes, of course you are not lawyers, but your help is still very useful. During my H1 renewal process, I got more useful info from here than from my company's lawyer!
Seba - It seems like you have done your research and thought this through. I wish you good luck in whatever you pursue. Please don't forget to support IV in its overall goal to make this GC process a 'sane' one!
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slowwin
06-11 08:36 AM
Hi,
vis-a-vis immigration, the burden of proof is on us not on the USCIS, reputed attorney like murthy always suggest to keep copies of I-94s at each stage to show proof of maintenance of status.
Try to collate as much info as possible. Since you have such a long history (H1-B etc) at each step of extension or transfer you must have submitted copies of original H1 documents valid at that time and also passport copies too, go back to those attorney/(s) and request copies form their files. As far as I-20's are concerned you need to talk to your school to get copies.
Thanks,
slowwin
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DISCLAIMER: This not a legal advise. Please consult your attorney.
vis-a-vis immigration, the burden of proof is on us not on the USCIS, reputed attorney like murthy always suggest to keep copies of I-94s at each stage to show proof of maintenance of status.
Try to collate as much info as possible. Since you have such a long history (H1-B etc) at each step of extension or transfer you must have submitted copies of original H1 documents valid at that time and also passport copies too, go back to those attorney/(s) and request copies form their files. As far as I-20's are concerned you need to talk to your school to get copies.
Thanks,
slowwin
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DISCLAIMER: This not a legal advise. Please consult your attorney.
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08-21 12:06 PM
Congrats
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getgreensoon1
01-26 02:57 PM
2 people from Andhra get into top positions in IIT exams. 1600 people get caught going to fake universities in the US. That is a disgrace. People fron Andhra show desperation in the US and affect the diginity of every Indian in the US.
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longwaitneeds2end
09-16 03:25 PM
Jediknight,
Thank you so much for posting this on IV. We really need to stop such people from spreading hatered towards immigrants.
Signed the petition. :)
Thank you so much for posting this on IV. We really need to stop such people from spreading hatered towards immigrants.
Signed the petition. :)
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ramci
09-17 12:11 AM
All,
Please let me know your suggestion based on your experience.
H1B Details
H1B Entry in USA: 25-Mar-2007
Applied for Extension: 16 Dec 2008
RFE Received: April 2009
RFE Responded: May 2009
Denial Notice in USCIS Online System: 14-Sep-2009
VISA & I-94 Expired: 25-May-2009
Clarifications
1. Can I apply for the H1B Transfer with another Company ? I got a offer from a Company and they would like to do the H1B transfer and they are stating that there are no issues for H1B Transfer though the Extension got denied.
2.Since the H1B Denied, From When I have to stop working ? Is it after i receive my denial documents?
4. If transfer is possible, Can I start working based on the H1B Transfer Receipt Notice ? or Should I wait for the H1B Transfer Approval Notice to work ?
Please let me know your suggestion based on your experience.
H1B Details
H1B Entry in USA: 25-Mar-2007
Applied for Extension: 16 Dec 2008
RFE Received: April 2009
RFE Responded: May 2009
Denial Notice in USCIS Online System: 14-Sep-2009
VISA & I-94 Expired: 25-May-2009
Clarifications
1. Can I apply for the H1B Transfer with another Company ? I got a offer from a Company and they would like to do the H1B transfer and they are stating that there are no issues for H1B Transfer though the Extension got denied.
2.Since the H1B Denied, From When I have to stop working ? Is it after i receive my denial documents?
4. If transfer is possible, Can I start working based on the H1B Transfer Receipt Notice ? or Should I wait for the H1B Transfer Approval Notice to work ?
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GCDream
02-20 08:12 PM
Here is what I have after analyzing the FLC Data Center MDB files
>2001 May 8 = 504 Certified Labors
2002 = 79784 Certified Labors
2003 = 62912 Certified Labors
2004 = 43582 Certified Labors
Total: 186782 Certified Labors
The above data is for world
Let's say India is 25% of world and 75% of India is in EB3
This gives 186782 * 0.25 * 0.75 = 35022 for India from 2001 to 2004
Since the country of the alien is available for Perm, let's use it for 2005 and 2006
2005 India = 1350
2006 India = 22298
Total for India in 2005 and 2006 = 23648
Pending in BEC: 111000
Applying the same formula for India EB3: 111000 * 0.25 * 0.75 = 20812
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 = 35022 + 23648 + 20812 = 79482
Let's say 20% labors are duplicate or deserted. This gives 79482 * 0.80 = 63586
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 with Dependents = 63586 * 2.2 = 139889
Total EB3 visas for India in a year: 140000 * 0.07 * 0.286 = 2802
Without any Law:
139889/2802 = 50 Years
Assuming CIR passes with
1. Dependents not counted
2. EB visas increased from 140,000 to 650,000
3. Per country quota raised to 10%
4. Exempts advanced degree holders
Total EB3 India visas per year = 650,000 * 0.1 * 0.286 = 18590
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 without dependents: 63586
Assuming 20% have advanced degree holders = 63586 * 0.2 = 12717
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 without dependents and advanced degree holders
= 63586 - 12717 = 50869
For India EB3 Priority date to reach Dec 2006 = 50869/18590 = 2.7 Years
Conclusion
Without Law: 50 Years :confused:
With Law: 2.7 Years :D
>2001 May 8 = 504 Certified Labors
2002 = 79784 Certified Labors
2003 = 62912 Certified Labors
2004 = 43582 Certified Labors
Total: 186782 Certified Labors
The above data is for world
Let's say India is 25% of world and 75% of India is in EB3
This gives 186782 * 0.25 * 0.75 = 35022 for India from 2001 to 2004
Since the country of the alien is available for Perm, let's use it for 2005 and 2006
2005 India = 1350
2006 India = 22298
Total for India in 2005 and 2006 = 23648
Pending in BEC: 111000
Applying the same formula for India EB3: 111000 * 0.25 * 0.75 = 20812
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 = 35022 + 23648 + 20812 = 79482
Let's say 20% labors are duplicate or deserted. This gives 79482 * 0.80 = 63586
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 with Dependents = 63586 * 2.2 = 139889
Total EB3 visas for India in a year: 140000 * 0.07 * 0.286 = 2802
Without any Law:
139889/2802 = 50 Years
Assuming CIR passes with
1. Dependents not counted
2. EB visas increased from 140,000 to 650,000
3. Per country quota raised to 10%
4. Exempts advanced degree holders
Total EB3 India visas per year = 650,000 * 0.1 * 0.286 = 18590
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 without dependents: 63586
Assuming 20% have advanced degree holders = 63586 * 0.2 = 12717
Total for India in all years till Dec 2006 without dependents and advanced degree holders
= 63586 - 12717 = 50869
For India EB3 Priority date to reach Dec 2006 = 50869/18590 = 2.7 Years
Conclusion
Without Law: 50 Years :confused:
With Law: 2.7 Years :D
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Macaca
08-10 04:25 PM
A woman who was traveling alone in the mountains found a precious stone in a stream.
The next day she met another traveler who was hungry, the woman opened her bag to share her food. The hungry traveler saw the precious stone and asked the woman to give it to him. She did so without hesitation. The traveler left, rejoicing in his great fortune. He knew the stone was worth enough to give him security for a lifetime.
But a few days later he came back to return the stone to the woman. "I've been thinking," he said, "I know how valuable the stone is, but I give it back in the hope that you can give me something even more precious. Give me what you have within you that enabled you to give me the stone."
The woman smiled, "The joy of giving!"
The next day she met another traveler who was hungry, the woman opened her bag to share her food. The hungry traveler saw the precious stone and asked the woman to give it to him. She did so without hesitation. The traveler left, rejoicing in his great fortune. He knew the stone was worth enough to give him security for a lifetime.
But a few days later he came back to return the stone to the woman. "I've been thinking," he said, "I know how valuable the stone is, but I give it back in the hope that you can give me something even more precious. Give me what you have within you that enabled you to give me the stone."
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Alabaman
05-15 09:17 PM
All these articles say we are hoping to get citizenship. I think this word raises more shackeles than saying getting green card. Cmon, we are only thinking GC now. Ctizinship after 5 years is somewhat of a time bound process. Why don these articles say we are waiting for GC. This atleast will be more palatable to the anti leagl immigration forces.More importanatly it refelects our true problem as of now.
Thats what annoys me... that they say we are trying to get citizenship. We just want to be free. If GC would give us that then we are fine. They can give us GC and say 10 years before we can apply for citizenship as long as we are free. Right now I feel like I am chained down. I can not plan I can not move forward... living a stagnant live.
The problem though is that there is no line to get into. Employers are not even willing to sponsor GC anymore. There is the need to be able to self petition.
Most people writing all these articles dont even know what is going on. They need to experience the immigration system for them to know. A lot of the facts they present are wrong. They say there is a legal way of getting GC. There is no defined legal way. It is dependent on employers wi
Thats what annoys me... that they say we are trying to get citizenship. We just want to be free. If GC would give us that then we are fine. They can give us GC and say 10 years before we can apply for citizenship as long as we are free. Right now I feel like I am chained down. I can not plan I can not move forward... living a stagnant live.
The problem though is that there is no line to get into. Employers are not even willing to sponsor GC anymore. There is the need to be able to self petition.
Most people writing all these articles dont even know what is going on. They need to experience the immigration system for them to know. A lot of the facts they present are wrong. They say there is a legal way of getting GC. There is no defined legal way. It is dependent on employers wi
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cagedcactus
11-11 03:38 PM
In short... this backlog is not going away, until everyone of us participates at state level, and starts making a difference.
We must stand up and fight this unfair system. they are not going to do anything for us, if we just sit on our lazy behinds....
We must stand up and fight this unfair system. they are not going to do anything for us, if we just sit on our lazy behinds....
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gee_see
10-19 10:08 AM
My question is can the salary go down ? and what are the risks?. I think salary increase is not an issue. What about salary decrease?
Thanks
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chris9902
06-09 05:43 AM
how can you make a site that bad
i can't make ground-breaking sites but i don't think my brain could make something that total ****
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i can't make ground-breaking sites but i don't think my brain could make something that total ****
SOUL all the way
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Quest99
09-14 03:54 PM
You started working for Company B before or after the H1 transfer receipt notice ?
is LCA for H1 filed after you joined company B - is it legal ?
Its likely possible you may have signed some contract with them in the offer letter, you can keep the communication only thru emails. And ask them for a copy for the basis for their standing.
Sorry I should have been more clear.
I never worked for Company B , I am still with Company A. Company B just got the LCA approved (and they claim that they have filed for the H1b transfer). The start date with Company B as per the offer letter is 1 week from now. I informed them that I cannot join them 1 week before.
I have same set of copies (offer letter) that I signed them, I couldn't find anything which says anything about $3000. All it says "At Will" in nature. All of a sudden these guys are coming with a 3 months story which I am not seeing and there is no evidence.
I am afraid if they will insert a paper or something like that with in the offer letter, don't know..these guys will do anything.
is LCA for H1 filed after you joined company B - is it legal ?
Its likely possible you may have signed some contract with them in the offer letter, you can keep the communication only thru emails. And ask them for a copy for the basis for their standing.
Sorry I should have been more clear.
I never worked for Company B , I am still with Company A. Company B just got the LCA approved (and they claim that they have filed for the H1b transfer). The start date with Company B as per the offer letter is 1 week from now. I informed them that I cannot join them 1 week before.
I have same set of copies (offer letter) that I signed them, I couldn't find anything which says anything about $3000. All it says "At Will" in nature. All of a sudden these guys are coming with a 3 months story which I am not seeing and there is no evidence.
I am afraid if they will insert a paper or something like that with in the offer letter, don't know..these guys will do anything.
nlssubbu
10-08 08:12 PM
i think once you use EAD to work, your H4 status has to expire. as someone said above, H4 by definition is a dependent visa and does not allow independent earnings (no job, no business nothing)
as per your next question, usually a person with valid H1B would not use AP to re-enter. Only a person on EAD would use AP to re-enter. Now what if one applies, gets and uses AP to re-enter even after having valid H1B (and no EAD), I don't know what the resultant status is?
Many used AP to enter and still continue to work with the same H1B employer without issue. I myself did this thrice and using AP does not invalidate your H1, but using EAD on I-9 form will do.
To reply to the original question, using EAD to earn by H4 derivative does invalidate the H4. H4 does not come with work permit and not allowed to earn wages. When you start using EAD and earn wages, that does conflict with the dependent nature and USCIS will not renew the H4. This is what I understand and please check with your attorney regarding future extension of H4.
(PS: I am not a lawyer and please use my advice based on your own discretion)
as per your next question, usually a person with valid H1B would not use AP to re-enter. Only a person on EAD would use AP to re-enter. Now what if one applies, gets and uses AP to re-enter even after having valid H1B (and no EAD), I don't know what the resultant status is?
Many used AP to enter and still continue to work with the same H1B employer without issue. I myself did this thrice and using AP does not invalidate your H1, but using EAD on I-9 form will do.
To reply to the original question, using EAD to earn by H4 derivative does invalidate the H4. H4 does not come with work permit and not allowed to earn wages. When you start using EAD and earn wages, that does conflict with the dependent nature and USCIS will not renew the H4. This is what I understand and please check with your attorney regarding future extension of H4.
(PS: I am not a lawyer and please use my advice based on your own discretion)
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