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  • dvsnm
    07-08 11:53 AM
    Guys I am looking at this thread for the first time today and want to put some comments:

    1) 3 people were making hunger strike at SJSU over the last weekend for DREAM act and we come to know about it thru 1510 AM, KLIVE in Bay Area.

    2) Immigration Voice members are planning to make a rally in SJ and we need to read it in the forum of (only) their website.

    3) We are hungry about media coverage and want utmost attention of the congressmen about our issues.

    BUT, you know what we are missing?:

    1) No postings on the windows of those Bharat Bajars and Cash N Carrys and Kumuds. Can't the i-phone designers and router gurus make Ashas and Abhijeets invisible with some eye catching posters?

    2) No postings on those other popular websites like murthy.com, immigration-law.com, bata.org etc. Did they say no for this?

    3) No usage of the library notice boards.

    4) No usage of SMS. Isn't it much cheaper than making contributions to the IV repeatedly?

    I hope to see all these channels being utilized fully for July 14/21 march in Bay Area before we talk about CNNs and WPs.

    Once the streets of SJ are hit with 1000+ people, those NBCs and CNNs and SJMs will come to us rather than we going to them.

    As for myself, I am in whenever the event takes place and will try to bring at least 5 of my friends to the march.

    P.S.: This is not an effort to criticize anyone here but just an attempt to help the organizers in whatever way I can.




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  • eb3_nepa
    12-11 12:36 PM
    Lets take another view of this "realistic" angle : Its common sense to go after the low hanging fruit first (I-485, filing EAD etc), but what we conveniently forget is in that case we will not have any support whatsoever from the corporates,AILA,health care industry etc. It will have to be a solo effort from IV for which we would need the support and active contributions from at least half of the one million EB applicants affected by this mess. So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.

    Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.

    Most of the time we have to search for bills to attach our provisions anyways. The only problem is that right now all our provisions are either being labeled as "quota increase" or are being attached to "Quota Increase" bills. Try and remember S-1932, CIR and SKIL. AILA will always be after H1 Increase and so will Big Corps. Only this time instead of seperating ourselves as "EB only" we try to piggyback on either "Quota increase" bills OR we try and piggyback on just about ANY bill we can piggyback onto. Most of the times weird bills get combined (S1932 for example).

    If 2006 has taught us anything it should be "Do NOT try and increase quotas and numbers". For starters it takes TOO long to do and there is MUCH more opposition from even the average American. Remember the IV Core telling us how the Anti-immigrant calls far outnumbered our calls during the Recent SKIL bill? Guys even the biggest Corps have been unsuccessful in getting Visa number increases. Do we honestly believe that with 6,000 members who are NOT a voting base (and may never be) + the lack of funds, we are going to do what these big guns have not been able to accomplish? Am I saying we should give up? HELL NO!! All I am saying is, it is time to review our strategy. Over and above all this, if we think that our current course will bring us victory then let the majority prevail.




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  • stucklabor
    06-27 10:10 AM
    First up, thanks to everyone for resolving this issue on their own, in a reasonable and civil manner.



    In a truly democratic environment, we may want to modify the core IV goals to reflect that (Ideally I would prefer that there be a vote for what should be the core goals...after all most people here have contributed something towards the cause...and only those who have contributed should be allowed to vote...no free lunch).

    1. Allow people to file for 485 and get EAD even if visa numbers are not available
    2. Allow EAD to be FULLY portable without restrictons (i.e., irrespective of job description or job title or job location or salary).

    The above two dont ask for sweeping changes in immigration laws such as increase visa numbers etc. etc. and are easy for the average American person to understand. And so can hopefuly be passed easily.

    With the above two passed, I dont think many people will complain if it takes another 5 years to get their GC. Agree?

    By the way, I have got my EAD card and my PD is also current. So the above two goals will be redundant for me. My story is that I am stuck in FBI namecheck. But the moderators have already indicated that it cant be one of the core goals. So I would not list that even if I would like that to be one of the core goals.

    Santosh

    Santosh, those are good suggestions that I will take up to the IV team.

    1. The idea of a democratically elected IV goals is a good one but there are huge practical problems. As it stands, the present IV goals are those that most people have indicated are those that the organization should strive for, and from our discussions with Congress/Senate staff, these goals are achievable. With democratically selected goals, the IV core team would have the unenviable task of fighting for whatever goals the populace decides is right, without regard to the achievability of the goals. For instance, if the junta votes on goals, many people would say 'Full portability of GC' or 'Automatic clearance of all pending labor cert applications in the BECs'. Those would probably not fly. Our current talking point is that our goals are small changes to the process; we do not skip any steps; and we do not change the process significantly. A full portability to any job changes the process significantly. Even yesterday, Spgtopper met the staff member of a very powerful House member and the staffer was quite positive on our goals - we do not ask for more green cards, we limit our goals to ones that are reasonable.

    2. IV goals are not written in stone. Name check is definitely an issue but it is an issue that not many of our people face. If our membership's problems changes from retrogression to name check, then we would have to work on that. It may be smarter to anticipate the magnitude of the problem and start work early. If you would be kind enough to partially lead the effort, that would be great. Logiclife is working on this issue on his own, and WaldenPond is also working on this. Please PM them. Logiclife is on vacation so he may take a while to respond.




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  • sracharla
    08-03 06:39 PM
    Today i added my old H1B (2003) case to my portfolio..i saw LUD on it...LUD date is '14th july 2007'...not sure...14th july is saturday...but no surprise...i saw lot of people posted that their LUD was on weekends....Is it good indication? sorry if i am asking unnecessary question..



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  • Harutium
    06-22 08:49 AM
    Stop pushing for a comprehensive relief and turning into a kind of Skil solution
    (Only for a few, privileged minority, an elite), I.V. will be able to organize meetings in a phone booth!




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  • VMH_GC
    07-19 08:45 PM
    Could you please help us doing that ? I asked GSC999 for the same thing. There is no reply yet.

    Goto this link https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&followup=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F&ltmpl=homepage&nui=1

    and click create account now link. Enter your existing email address. For this purpose you can create one yahoo id and use that id with password you have given. you are all set.

    You would get an email to verify your email address. Once email address is verified. You can use the email id and password to login to google excel.

    create an excel and share it. in the share page check the radio button "as collaborators" and check "Anyone can view this document at:" checkbox and paste the link you under that check box in this forum. Hope this helps. If you need further help, let me know



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  • gsc999
    07-08 10:51 PM
    Thanks to the three members for volunteering.




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  • coopheal
    09-23 05:18 PM
    Excluding dependents is the most powerful and least controversial and most unifying way to clear the entire backlog in 2 - 3 years time. This way no EB2-EB3, I/C/ROW we will all be green.

    Explain how this is the least controversial? Are anti, illegals, and other stake holders willing to do this?



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  • Administrator2
    03-08 05:19 PM
    Also you seems to be straying from the original intent of the thread...

    mirage,

    The original intent of the thread is flawed and against the very purpose of creating such a thread. We have explained you during the phone conversation that it is not the right time to pick up country limits issue. We have run this by our strategist again and they have also advised us that its not the right time for this issue. Others on the forum, including unitednations, have also made an attempt to explain you the issues we are all dealing with. You are free to do whatever you think is best for you. We think that your actions are likely to harm the community effort. So in the best interest of the community effort, please be cautioned that we will be forced to ban you from this site if you continue this on the forum.

    All the Best.




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  • chanduv23
    08-26 12:51 PM
    May be not true, my case assgined to officer on june 29th and no news yet. But I wish Ski_dude12 good luck.

    Did you try Ombudsman route? It may take a few more weeks, I guess it is worth a try.



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  • lfadgyas
    09-10 12:19 AM
    Folks it has been long time I last wrote here � but this visa bulletin made me mad (sorry)
    So I went and downloaded all the FLCDataCenter.com (http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx) data from 2000 till 2008. It looks like they recorded all the pre �perm cases as well. After this I exported all the stuff into mysql table and made some calculation on the labor certification data. Unfortunately cannot separate (e1,e2,e3 etc � some may want to try by country but �)
    Again this is PERM � labor certification!!1 - but has to do with GC I guess...

    Time frame 1999 Oct -2008 Oct:
    Sum of cases: 720486, like '%CERT%' = 554635 (certified), like '%Deni%'= 60043 (denials), (Non duplicate case numbers were = 715191 (i.e. 5295 duplicates only from the 720486) )
    There were ~100000 cases with some other �state� descriptions like Withdrawn = 13955, Received Regional Office = 69556 etc;
    Anyway, by grouped years it comes to (sum � certified + denials +etc):
    last action date with "null" entry ?? 34113
    between '1999-10-01' and '2000-10-01' 74048
    between '2000-10-01' and '2001-10-01' 82629
    between '2001-10-01' and '2002-10-01' 89524
    between '2002-10-01' and '2003-10-01' 95552
    between '2003-10-01' and '2004-10-01' 98866
    between '2004-10-01' and '2005-10-01' 6153
    between '2005-10-01' and '2006-10-01' 79939
    between '2006-10-01' and '2007-10-01' 98927
    between '2007-10-01' and '2008-10-01' 61997

    Guess work (nbr of labor certs are 10% less in each group � denials are not removed):
    Still wait - % how many of that group still waiting � (some can give a better guess??)
    Family x � one applicant will present 2.5 visa nbrs or so�.
    Group Labor cert family x still wait 140000<-as of today
    between '1999-10-01' and '2000-10-01' 74048 2.5 4% 7404.8 132595.2
    between '2000-10-01' and '2001-10-01' 82629 2.5 9% 18591.53 114003.675
    between '2001-10-01' and '2002-10-01' 89524 2.5 14% 31333.4 82670.275
    between '2002-10-01' and '2003-10-01' 95552 2.5 19% 45387.2 37283.075
    between '2003-10-01' and '2004-10-01' 98866 2.5 38% 93922.7 -56639.625
    between '2004-10-01' and '2005-10-01' 6153 2.5 45% 6922.125 -63561.75
    between '2005-10-01' and '2006-10-01' 79939 2.5 80% 159878 -223439.75
    between '2006-10-01' and '2007-10-01' 98927 2.5 90% 222585.8 -446025.5
    between '2007-10-01' and '2008-10-01' 61997 2.5 100% 154992.5 -601018

    Do your calculation if you want �:eek:




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  • srinithati
    12-15 11:38 PM
    Don't worry Bro' this retrogrssion is artificial...

    Cases Pending for year 2000, 2001, 2002 & 2003 may be few hundresds..

    even single case is is pending(due to name check delays and and it has been cleared recently), they have to regtrogate to cover that case...

    For EB2, retrogression is artificial, it doesnot reflect actual numbers.

    March/April 2008 - will show up more realistic numbers..



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  • deepakjain
    05-08 05:53 PM
    My Apologies if this seems a bit rude to you...

    IV is specific for people those who are awaiting permanent residence...but looking at the recent set of events for those who are not in queue and are new here with just 2-3 years of stay in State....on H1B...

    Following is happening and it has a reason...I know many of my friends who have been denied H1B, L1 extensions ..these are those people who have just started PERM...

    EB2 dates moving to Jan 00 and other not under U, has a specific reason as well; quota is one reason but it is not the only reason in the current state...these is another means to make sure that those who are trying to get GC and other who are trying to stay for 6 years under H1B should be putup into a spot that the thought of leaving this place and ending up back home becomes a reality..

    I am sure out of total 500K awaiting the GC process, will have now atleast a second thought of going back home...H1B and L1 under 6 years are now also being forced to return back....




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  • h1techSlave
    04-29 10:59 PM
    H1B quotas for 2001, 2002 and 2003 were 195000. Three times the norm. This could be the reason they quotas were not met during those years. Sure market conditions also helped.

    I thinks EB3 INDIA will move between 9/11/2001 to JAN 2004 , because after 9/11 probably few people applied for GreenCrd because of market condition, even h1b quotas are not used for 2002 and 2003, i applied for h1b on 2004 April , no surprise the quota available because of market condition.



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  • shantak
    03-18 06:27 PM
    Called two weeks ago as per my post above. No FP yet. At this point I don't even care anymore... :(

    Thats a good way to lead the life, but this immigration process is taking a big toll . Hope we all come out of this
    Thanks everyone for providing an update. Atleast that gives an idea as to how many are still waiting. Please update accordingly




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  • newu77
    08-20 04:15 PM
    I called on friday. Had to explain the lady that as per press-release, my receipt number should be issued. After 20 minutes of discussions, she escalated my call to another officer. She checked the database with my name, DOB and A# but she could not find any thing related to I-485.



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  • tushbush
    05-23 05:55 AM
    Sent to 11 (one is common).

    Cheers




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  • Honda
    09-10 12:33 AM
    -with correction
    We all morons and still wont learn, we will still start predicting for next visa bulletin hoping that a reincarnation of god will come and deliver us visa numbers.
    Unless we all make a collective effort no one is going to listen to us. I know the fate of my post, we all will get busy to get our post noted or express our opinion which will definitely solve our problem or proving our point the that "i am right you are wrong" or get busy with "my ideas are better than yours" or "who wins the quote slamming contest".
    We have simply lost our fous of our main problem . I think we deserve this perhaps I think if we continue like this we dont even deserve GCs.[/QUOTE]

    There is nothing change in the next bulletin. What you saw from the last couple of bulletins "Unavailable". That should be happened with in few months. This is my opinion. I am not blaming any body. This is the real situation going on from the last couple of years bulletins.




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  • partha_vus
    07-04 12:41 PM
    My application delivered on Jul 2, 11:25 PM to Nebraska my PD: Jan 2001




    GCKarma
    05-02 07:43 PM
    Is it already introduced in Senate?
    I could not find any thing on this from http://thomas.loc.gov/




    BharatPremi
    11-01 05:37 PM
    pls try to understand...my statement is valid for beyond the 180 day period....i agree that one should not change before 180 days irrespective of whether the I-140 is approved or not...

    the question is after the 180 day period..and my point is aytes memo clearly states that the I-140 need not be approved..

    Even after 180 days, your employer put a withdrawal request with proof of insufficient financial strength to pay you from the period start (within 180 days ) till the withdrawal request date then what will you do? Now it is clearly "un approvable" during "even within 180 days" . Now 180 days passed already? - yes. I-140 is already approved? - No, Employer filed withdrawal ?- yes? Employer shows underlying reason of insufficient finance capacity within 180 days - yes .. Then case closed - Denial - Next.

    So I would not play with fire.. Rather I would wait for I-140 approval if 180 days have already been passed.

    Note: With big companies, This may not happen. But with small desi companies this can happen.



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